(ZENIT News / Rome, 01.20.2025).- On January 19, 2025, Pope Francis captivated audiences in an in-depth interview with Italian journalist Fabio Fazio on “Che tempo che fa”. This marked his third appearance on the program, following previous interviews in 2022 and 2024. In just under an hour, the Pope traversed a spectrum of critical issues, from global politics to personal anecdotes, offering a blend of humor, wisdom, and profound insight.
The occasion also served as the launchpad for his autobiography, Spera («Hope»), a heartfelt collection of stories that illuminates his character, personality and history.
Announcement of the next governor of the Vatican
In a historic move, Pope Francis announced that Sister Raffaella Petrini, currently serving as Secretary of the Vatican City Governorate, will become its president in March 2025. This appointment makes her the first woman to hold the position, following the retirement of Cardinal Fernando Vérgez Alzaga, LC.
The Pope celebrated the increasing involvement of women in Vatican leadership, citing Sister Simona Brambilla’s recent appointment as Prefect of the Dicastery for Consecrated Life. “Women manage better than we do,” he quipped, acknowledging the transformative role they play within the Church.
A Voice for the Voiceless: Immigration and Justice
Turning to global issues, Pope Francis condemned proposed mass deportations of immigrants in the United States, calling them “a shame” that punishes the most vulnerable. Reflecting on migration as both a challenge and a necessity, he reiterated his “four verbs” for addressing the crisis: welcome, accompany, promote, and integrate.
The pontiff also revisited his urgent call to address declining birthrates, particularly in aging societies like Italy’s. “If you don’t have children, bring in migrants,” he stated, framing immigration as both a moral imperative and a pragmatic solution.
Conflict and Peace: The Middle East and Beyond
The Pope’s reflections on the Middle East carried a sense of cautious optimism. As a fragile ceasefire unfolded in Gaza, he applauded mediators for their efforts and reaffirmed his belief in a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
“Peace is greater than war,” he stressed, though he acknowledged the courage required to achieve it. “War is always a defeat,” he added, condemning the arms industry for its role in perpetuating violence.
Jubilee 2025: Anchored in Hope
Hope, the theme of the ongoing Holy Year, emerged as a central thread in the interview. The Pope highlighted the spiritual significance of the Jubilee, recalling his unprecedented opening of the Holy Door at Rebibbia Prison in Rome.
“Never forget the prisoners,” he urged, noting that many incarcerated individuals bear less guilt than those who remain free. His compassionate plea underscored his broader mission of inclusion and mercy.
A Moral Reckoning: Abuse, Forgiveness, and Solidarity
Francis did not shy away from addressing the Church’s internal struggles, including the crisis of abuse. Calling it “a great evil,” he emphasized the need for relentless vigilance.
On the topic of sin, he offered a pastoral perspective, rejecting a narrow focus on “sins of the flesh” and emphasizing God’s boundless capacity for forgiveness. “No sin cannot be forgiven,” he reminded listeners, “because God wants everyone to be with Him.”
Personal Moments and Humor
The Pope also shared lighter anecdotes, including a stumble in the Sistine Chapel immediately after his election in 2013. “The infallible Pope began with a fall!” he joked, displaying his trademark humility.
As the interview concluded, Francis left viewers with a poignant message: “Do not miss this opportunity during the Holy Year. Move forward with courage. And never lose your sense of humor.”
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